Y'all come back now
There is an illegitimate, plural possessive form of "you" that exposes a strange hole in American English. It comes up even when one is dealing with well-educated and usually articulate speakers. Like many Americans, I learned English by ear, and boast a near-total ignorance of formal rules of grammar, but I know a bogus term when I hear one... and that term is "your guyses." Example: "I am not sure when your guyses' contract expires."
Let's think about why this term exists. I am in a meeting at this very moment in which the term was just used. It was addressed to a small group of people with collective ownership of a thingamajig. Why would'nt "your" have sufficed? In fact, possessive aside, why do we *ever* choose "you guys" over "you?"
It would seem to me that we speakers of English have a need for something more concrete... a specific second-person pronoun that is plural. According to your Strunks and Whites, "you" in fact fills both the singular and plural. And yet, this still seems to cause a certain itchiness, a certain uneasiness, with most. We speakers of English crave second person plural specificity, further evidenced by a similar term invented by Southerners to fill this same purpose: "y'all."
"You guys" and "y'all" slip easily if incorrectly enough into our vernacular until this matter of the possessive comes along. That's when things fall apart, at least, to the discerning ears of tiny dog. And yet, I have no solution for those who crave possessive plural pronoun specificity short of inventing a new word, as the Southerners have done.
Surely we do not want to start a precedent of legitimizing Southern turns of phrase, however, so that leaves us nowhere. If your guyses' thoughts lend any new perspective on this issue, please enlighten the readers of tiny dog.
Let's think about why this term exists. I am in a meeting at this very moment in which the term was just used. It was addressed to a small group of people with collective ownership of a thingamajig. Why would'nt "your" have sufficed? In fact, possessive aside, why do we *ever* choose "you guys" over "you?"
It would seem to me that we speakers of English have a need for something more concrete... a specific second-person pronoun that is plural. According to your Strunks and Whites, "you" in fact fills both the singular and plural. And yet, this still seems to cause a certain itchiness, a certain uneasiness, with most. We speakers of English crave second person plural specificity, further evidenced by a similar term invented by Southerners to fill this same purpose: "y'all."
"You guys" and "y'all" slip easily if incorrectly enough into our vernacular until this matter of the possessive comes along. That's when things fall apart, at least, to the discerning ears of tiny dog. And yet, I have no solution for those who crave possessive plural pronoun specificity short of inventing a new word, as the Southerners have done.
Surely we do not want to start a precedent of legitimizing Southern turns of phrase, however, so that leaves us nowhere. If your guyses' thoughts lend any new perspective on this issue, please enlighten the readers of tiny dog.
Update: Although this is not a knitting blog, I repeat, not a knitting blog, I am here to bring the whole matter of the iPod socks full circle by announcing that I have more or less created a rib-stitch iPod sock, and thus I am ready to begin to fulfill iPod sock requests, sans of course, iPod products.
What I wanted to do here with this post is address all the haterz who said I would never accomplish anything close to an iPod sock in my knitting endeavors. Granted this project looks more like it would be an apt accessory to a 5-year-old's tea party, but it is sort of iPod shaped-- I even tested it.
Recently, two consumer fast food product items have reached such heights of corporate desperation and cynicism, that I can no longer remain silent.
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